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>> the american people are sick and tired about hearing about these dam e-mails. >> thank you. tonight i want to talk not about my e-mails. >> fluff of the e-mails. >> is bernie sander's tough enough on guns? >> no, not at all. >> this reckless economy. >> i was very pleased when governor o'malley endorsed me for president in 2008. >> are you saying you didn't eno what were voting for? >> i just arrived in the senate. >> leading us into iraq under false pretences was one of the worst blunders. >> being the first woman president would be quite a change. >> i don't think i am gambling, but you have not been in the
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united states congress. if we are a free country. we have the right to be free. >> this is "new day" with chris cuomo, allison camera that and mikaela pereira. >> well, well, well, good morning. welcome to your "new day." it is wednesday, october 14th. 5:30 in the east, allison, i hear in las vegas mikaela in new york. what a night we said the democratic race would change after this debate. you got to see, hillary clinton at her best. you got to see bernie sanders making his case. you got to see the introduction, really, of martin o'malley, they were going head-to-head in front of the audience, in front of the world, really, to see, where are they the same and who is the best choice for democrats. now it's all 5b9 the analysis -- about the analysis. >> jim webb and lincoln chafee
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also had some really compelling moments. we will talk about all of that. did any of those three candidates aside from hillary and bernie have a breakout moment. did last night signal the end for last night's campaign? let's bring in cnn's comprehensive coverage. you are cnn's comprehensive coverage, john berman. you have ault all of the debate highlights. tell us what you saw. >> i have that in my contract. before last night, the five democratic candidates have a combined total 25 presidential debates between them, hillary clinton accounted for all 25. to an extent, that really showed last night. >> it may have been the first democratic debate but it was clear it was not hillary clinton's first rodeo, running down a debate check list with surgical precision. >> i would not ask anyone to vote for me based on my last name.
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>> her name, check, pragmatic wings of the party, check, check. >> i'm a progressive, but i'm progressive who likes to get things done. >> her gender, check, check, check. >> i think being the first woman president would be quite a change from the presidents who had up until this point. >> even apparently joking about an extended trip to the bathroom during a commercial. >> well, it does take me a little longer, that's all i can say. >> on the biggest must do list addressing the use of her private e-mail for national business. she had a surprising assist from her leading opponent vermont senator bernie sanders. >> the american people are suction and tired of hearing about your dam e-mails. >> thank you. me too, me too! >> or even herding a smile and a handshake. clinton didn't exactly return the favor in one of the sharpest exchanges of the night when asked about sander's record of voting against gun control
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measures. >> senator clinton, bernie sanders tough enough on guns? >> no, not at all. we have to look at the fact that we lose 90 people a day from gun violence. >> i can tell hillary clinton all the shouting in the world is not going to do what i would hope all of us want and that is keep guns out of the hands of people who should not have those guns. >> reporter: sanders, the self proclaimed democratic socialist touted his battle against income inequality. you don't consider yourself a capitalist, though? >> do i consider myself a part of the casino capitalist process by which so few have so much and so many have so little by which wall street's greed and recklesses in wrecked this economy? no, i don't. >> reporter: former maryland governor martin o'malley looking for a breakout moment hit hard on foreign policy. >> leading us into iraq under false pretences and telling us as a people that there were weapons of mass destruction there was one of the worst
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blunders in modern american history. >> reporter: as for former virginia senator jim webb polk in the single digits and barely campaigning, he fought to be noticed. >> i'm have been trying to get into this conversation for ten minutes. i have been waiting ten minutes. >> you are over your time. >> well, you let a lot of people go over their time. >> reporter: former rhode island governor lincoln chafee struggled to answer questions about his record. >> i just arrived, my dad had died in office. i was appointed. it was my very first vote. >> are you saying you don't know what you were voting for. >> reporter: perhaps the most aspirational was when hillary clinton was to list her enemies. >> the nra, the health insurance companies the drug companies, the iranians, probably the republica republicans. >> who are the big enemies? of course, every time she could in the debate, she turned her
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focus towards the republicans, perhaps looking ahead than any other candidates. no one mentioned one name, though, that's joe biden. you do have to wonder what he thought while he was watch tack debate. >> he was thinking, what a game. i hope the mets close it out. that was a very good piece. stick around. you've earned it. let's bring in the rest of our political team here to physical out who really made strides last night and why. cnn political reporter mave rhymes with brave reston. senior walk correspondent jeff zellamy. mr. mave, we said bernie sanders explanling himself, the x-factor, would martin o'malley be able to have a fiorina moment? how do you think people did in terms of meeting the bar for success? >> i think hillary put in a very, very strong performance. we did see a relatively smooth performance from o'malley.
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but i did not see that big breakout moment that we were all looking for, you know, obviously, these other guys are asterisks in the polls with the exception of bernie sanders, bernie sanders was actually a little more muted in his attacks on hillary clinton and than some of us were expecting, hillary just drove her points home every single time, she was ready, prepared, totally brought ler a-game and i think everyone else faded a little bit. >> donald trump's prediction was wrong. this was not boring. >> impossible. >> this was a compelling debate, what moment jumped out at you? >> it was compelling. no question, hillary clinton commanded the stage from beginning to end. she did that in almost all the of the debates. i think we have to let this settle in a bit to see how voters respond to this. i think bernie sanders did better among his supporters than we may think in the early analysis of this. there is no question she came
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prepared. she is a good debater. i thought the moment where she got the best of bernie sanders is on guns. she said he did not do enough on gun control. >> was that a fair criticism? bernie sanders gave hillary clinton the best attack line and the gift where he basically closed the door on the e-mails. >> r and benghazi, she said, you didn't do enough t. bill was, what was passed in the '90s by bush that basically changed how gun manufacturers could be sued. let me ask you something. do you think that was fair criticism saying you were too good to the gun lobby because of that bill? >> i think it was not entirely fair criticism. from a democratic primary, she was trying to portray him soft on guns, in this climb, this moment, we see one episode after another, i think she got the
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best of him. >> the rural state defense that i don't think plays well after the kind of year we've had with, you know, so many incidents of gun violence, that's not what those people -- >> you got to be reasonable to win. basically, she was saying, you got to be able to sue gun manufacturers. >> the brady bill, which came up in the clinton administration is synonymous with the clinton administration, their anti-crime policies, he voted against the brady bill several times and against those five-day waiting periods. i think she was putting focus on that as much as the lawsuit. >> yet, there was that moment where they had common cause, bernie sanders went out of his way to say he did not think the e-mail scandal was something that the voters cared about. he basically said we should put it to bed now, let's watch this moment. >> let me say something that may not be great politics. but i think the secretary is right and that is that the
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american people are sick and tired of hearing about your dam e-mails. >> thank you. me too, me too! said like a true vermonter. >> mave, that was true bernie. >> it wasn't politically savvy. . i said, i got your side, myopoint, he saw lincoln chafee come in after hillary clinton on the e-mail and after he closed that door, it was done, it was tabled for the night. >> them preerl closed the door, though, in the room with democratic primary voters. most agree on that, it is not closed forever. >> fair enough. >> anderson cooper, obviously, i couldn't be more biassed, he's been our colleague and a friend forever. he set the standard last night of how to do this job. that was a home crowd, preaching to the converted. everybody goes crazy when bernie says that, he says, yeah, maybe in this room. but that's a legitimate issue.
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you know what, that's the truth. >> can i disagree he said it might not be politically savvy, listen to the words, they were chosen, he didn't say this e-mails. he said your e-mails. right. so he did place ownership on the e-mail issue. i think he reminded people that the scandal is out there and people are talking about it. i don't think he absolved her completely. >> okay. very quickly, jim webb, lincoln chafee, what's next? >> jim webb completely faded from the stage except for odd moimt moment, lincoln chafee talk about being a block of granite. everybody was watching him on twitter. >> i think we will see a drop? >> these guys what do they have to lose at this point? it's the vanity project in many ways, so we'll see what forces them out. >> okay. everybody, thanks for all of. that standby after last night's debate, we have so much more to talk about.
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could the current democratic field of five shrink to a field of four or maybe three? we will look at how the other candidates did and if anyone is on their way out. we'll be right back. .
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>> welcome back to our special early edition of "new day." last night's democratic debate was not just the hillary an bernie show, though they did get the lion's share of time. but there were three other candidates. how did they do? we are joined again. >> as the anchor questions her own words as they come out of her mouth. >> your eyebrow speaks volumes to me, john berman and we want to start with you, you basically said jim webb, lincoln chafee, you weren't wildly impressed. however, didn't jim web come out strong when he talked about his own military background, his family, his five daughters and what they all do in terms of public service were those -- >> that was certainly his
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moment. if there was a moment last night in the debate. what happens the rest of the time is you sort of found him arguing that he wasn't getting a lot of time, cleaning. when you spend time doing that, it's a lost moment for you. he heralded him for his service, it wasn't something that i would have considered a brakeout moment for him. >> jeff, take us through the analysis for the difference between pedigree and cache within an election. on paper, everyone on that stage is impressed in one way or another t. zwings between that and making it as a candidate. >> the reality is all don't have equal campaigns. jim webb, lincoln chafee are not campaigning they are hardly out there in i, what the four early states. they're not waging campaigns so they are a part of this group of formers, former governors, former seniors, we see it every
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time. the former alaska senator was there until nearly the end of 2008. i think jim webb was the more serious about this. i thought he had an interesting moment, bernie, that movement is not going to happen. >> the revolution is not going to happen. how are you going to pay for it? i think jim web was not in this twitter moment. he seemed in slow motion. i said are you going to stay in? he said, yes, i'm going to stay in, i'm just getting started. lincoln chafee said as long as my bug allows. >> to the point we may be coming into this segment. it wound up being a look at hillary clinton and bernie sanders. do you think bernie sanders did enough last night to make himself an alternative to the widest swap of the party? >> i think bernie sanders did everything he could to appeal to bernie sander's voters. my question is, did he appeal to one person who is not bernie
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sanders? >> what about the black lives matter? >> you know what, i think it wasn't a big subject over the course of the night. they talked about it once and moved on. >> at the beginning and not to those two demographic groups he is struggling withtive. he never found a moment to connect with those voters in the way hillary clinton has. >> and in his introduction to the country because there was in some ways an introduction to the country. they also found out about party which is not democrat, it's an independent. he's a democratic socialist. he needed to explain that to america in and it's a tough word. he talked about denmark, hillary clinton said bernie we are not denmark so that is now a part of the bernie sanders american speech. >> was that effective when bernie sanders said here's what i mean? >> no, i don't think you can explain that in that short of a moment there. i think he struggled to explain. that i think martin ao'malley,
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i'm a life long democrat. >> and chafee is not. >> some people thought he was going aggressively after hillary clinton. not a chance, that was his real introduction to the country. few looked inside martin o'malley's words, read the transcript. he had a lot of slow zincers at hillary clinton, in the end, i respect what hillary clinton and her husband has done for our country. our country needs new leadership. that was the beginning of that alternative. >> hillary clinton said to him, i appreciated your endorsement in 2008. she was right. she was ready for that. >> he said something changed since 2008. >> right. >> you know, right at that moment, her team and her allies were sending out the full endorsement. >> how big a deal is it? bernie sanders said after the debate, they didn't talk enough about income and equality. they did talk a lot about wall street. i thought you saw a very
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important distinction. hick hick kept saying, hey, if states want to do that let them do it. that wasn't the question s. question is what will you do about banks and wall street. o'malley was strong on that, does it matter to the voters at least right now? >> i think it might. it's almost a republican argument that she kept making that this will all come down to the state. it's an elegant dodge, but it certain live wasn't the way that some democrats would have wanted her to answer that question. >> i think bernie sanders was strong on that, he says congress does not regulate wall street. wall street regulates congress. so bernie sanders supporters loved that, they were cheering at home. >> john was making a point that some of hillary's wall street terms could ends up in an attack ad when she talked about having to rent wall street and tow that line or balance that line so it's interesting. >> thank you very much. great stuff. >> to be sure, the race changed last night. you go to the see the contenders in a way you haven't before.
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have you five democratic contenders, made a lot of big claims, you know where this is going, right? so who was telling the whole truth and not anything but the truth as opposed to a little stretch a little around the corner, a number that's not exactly right. we checked. we have the reel him. stay with us.. stay with ul. stay with us.
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well, look, here's the big balance here, even in vegas, it's all about gambling, they say, oh, that sounded good. is it true? we have to fact check. john berman has that weight yes task. who was giving up the real? >> we were talking about gun control, a big part of the discussion, particularly when it pertains to bernie sander's record, a contentious moment last night at the democratic debate, he was asked about that record and accused of protecting gun manufacturers right from lawsuits. listen to what he said. >> manufacturers and where you have gun shops, knowingly giving guns to criminals or aiding and
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abetting that, of course, we should take action. >> it's interesting, back in july, sanders told cnn gunmakers should not be held responsible. not anymore you would hold a hammer company responsible if someone beats somebody over the head with a hammer. >> that is not what a lawsuit should be about. so it's interesting. so when he says in the debate he doesn't want lawsuits for certain reasons, it's clear he doesn't think gun manufacturers should be sued. now, hillary clinton accused of flip-flopping on her support, her opposition i should say of the keystone pipeline. listen. >> you know, everybody on this stage has changed a position or two. we have been around a cumulative quite some period of time. you know we know if you are learning you will change your position. i never took a position on keystone. >> so did she ever take a
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position on keystone? in october of 2010 hillary clinton told the commonwealth club quote we haven't finished all of the analysis, we have not yet signed off on it but we are inclined to do so and we are for several reasons. over the next five years, clinton would repeatedly decline to say what her opinion is while the obama administration studied it. this past september, she did finally say i oppose it. so her statements that she never took a position true but not the whole story. the big moment, when bernie sanders decided no itself to go after hillary clinton for using her private e-mail server as secretary of state. >> the secretary is right, and that is that the american people are sick and tired of hearing about your dam e-mails. >> thank you, me too, me too! >> but are they? are americans sick and tired of hearing about hillary clinton's
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e-mails? cnn-orc poll in august found that 56% of americans think that clinton did something wrong by using a private e-mail server while she was secretary of state and last month "cbs news"-"new york times" poll found that half of adults are dissatisfied with clinton's explanation ofia shy used a private server. most americans say the controversy has not affected their opinion of the candidates. so, while there is not a lot of recent data to deliver a verdict on whether americans do for do not care, whether they are or are not sick about hearing about the e-mail policy, some polls as recent as december show they are concerned about it. people are interested in this. maybe not democratic voters or people in the debate hall, but it was a bigger audience. >> thank you so much. so interesting as to watch the post-game wrap-up. we have a lot more on cnn's democratic debate coverage, so let's get right to it.
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i'm not taking a back seat to anybody. >> climate change is real. >> i have been as transparent as i know to be. >> enough of the e-mails. let's talk about the real issues. >> i think we need someone that has the best and ethical standards as our next president. that's how i feel. >> secretary clinton, do you want to respond? >> no. >> my republican friends seem to have amnesia. >> i am the only candidate running for president who is not a billionaire. >> you are not for glass-steagall. >> you're wasting time. >> i'm a pro-grossive that likes to get things done. >> i believe in a society that everybody does well, not a handful of billionaires. >> diplomacy is not about getting to the perfect solution. it's about how you balance the risk. >> this is "new day" with queen elizabeth, alisyn camerota and michaela pereira. >>

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